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                              The European Legal Information
                              Market: An Interview with Judy Vezmar, CEO, LexisNexis
                              Butterworths Tolley 
                              By Marydee Ojala  Editor 
                                                 Because
                            our schedules didn't mesh during the Online Information
                            conference and exhibition the first week of December
                            2002, Judy Vezmar graciously invited me to LexisNexis
                            Butterworths Tolley headquarters in Chancery Lane,
                            located in the heart of London's legal community,
                            following the show. As CEO of LexisNexis Group Europe,
                            Vezmar has responsibility for Europe and Africa.
                            She ushered me into the boardroom, with its impressive
                            bookshelves filled with bound legal tomes and its
                            walls graced by portraits of Butterworths Tolley
                            founding fathers (all male, looking suitably solemn
                            as befitted their status in their legal world). In
                            this environment, Judy Vezmar is a breath of fresh
                            air. She's from the U.S., she's not a lawyer, and
                            she didn't grow up in the information industry. As
                            we began our conversation, she gestured to the paintings
                            and chuckled, "It's said that I'm part of the new
                            landscape of LexisNexis." There's little doubt of
                            that, I realized, as our conversation ranged from
                            markets and media to branding and training.
                         MO: Why don't you tell me, to start,
                            a little bit about your background and how you got
                            involved with the online information industry.
                          JV: It doesn't quite fit
                          the profile that you would expect. My background is
                          all on the business side. I was with Xerox in the States
                          for almost my entire career. I started as a new sales
                          rep out of university, went into marketing, and then
                          I led a couple of major product launches. Essentially,
                          most of my career has been running operations.
                          In 1998, I was based in Manhattan, organizing Xerox
                          around vertical markets, when the company reorganized.
                          The chairman sent me to London to run P&L across
                          multiple European countries, focusing on the financial
                          services industry. We were developing solutions around
                          document management, which leads to the whole area
                          of knowledge management and understanding how to take
                          digitized words and organize the company's intellectual
                          capital around it.
                          One day I had this call from a search firm about
                          a position at Reed-Elsevier. And I said, "Why?" They
                          said, "Talk to Crispin Davis and Andy Prozes, and if
                          you still say, 'Why,' we'll understand." We had the
                          most amazing discussion. Andy explained how he had
                          just taken over the International Legal Division, which
                          was very much a loose federation of states around the
                          world; it was individual countries in a very traditional
                          legal publishing area. Then I had a meeting with Crispin
                          and the two of them came back and said, "Well, you
                          are not a lawyer and you are certainly not from a traditional
                          publishing background, but you are perfect for the
                          job." I remember laughing and saying, "OK, where is
                          the fit?" The fit actually came quite naturally. What
                          they really required in Europe was a business leader
                          who had experience of running operations, driving P&L,
                          and organizing the business across multiple countries.
                          MO: The operation here is not just online. You've
                            also got print publishing. Do you have a different
                            mission than what we are accustomed to in the States
                            from LexisNexis?
                          JV: I would say it's an evolutionary
                          mission. If you look on the walls here in the boardroom
                          you will see the bound, printed material that is still
                          a very significant part of the business. It's driven
                          by the market needs that each country has. My unit
                          is inclusive of the U.K., France, Poland, Austria,
                          South Africa I'm giving you the primary ones.
                          MO: Poland?
                          JV: Poland. Yes. We actually have a
                          strong business with significant growth every year.
                          It is an amazing market that you wouldn't expect.
                          MO: Do you have any sort of customer base in Eastern
                            Europe, outside of Poland? 
                          JV: We do. We do business in Hungary
                          and in the Czech Republic. There's a lot of interest.
                          But until we are absolutely sure that the market is
                          there and ready, I'm not willing to expand. You have
                          to look at infrastructure, support, budget.
                          MO: What about South Africa?
                          JV: Our headquarters is in Durban.
                          We have a phenomenal business in terms of market presence
                          and entrenchment. We have a very creative, extremely
                          talented team. Africa is a difficult market, but it's
                          incredible from the legal standpoint. Countries like
                          Nigeria have a surprisingly large number of trained
                          lawyers. That makes it a market with great growth potential
                          that nobody is really investing in. Ghana is a country
                          where they are aware of our products, our technology,
                          and our services. We just recently did an interesting
                          deal with the Ghana police. Now, they are not yet online
                          to the extent you find elsewhere, but they'll use our
                          CDs. We'll continue to manage our accounts in Africa
                          from South Africa, however, rather than set up offices
                          in other countries.
                          MO: And Scandinavia?
                          JV: Interesting market, Scandinavia.
                          Our market research, if you were to stack rank the
                          key markets of Europe, should put it at the top of
                          market opportunity. But it's actually at the bottom
                          sector of market opportunity because of the low number
                          of lawyers and practitioners. Therefore, when you put
                          it all together you say, if we go into that market,
                          how big will it be in terms of return?
                          We're concentrating on a specific launch order. This
                          year we've officially launched in Germany in a much
                          bigger way than before. In November, I acquired a company
                          called MBO that was, on its own, a very interesting
                          little operation. MBO built the most comprehensive
                          database of statutes in Germanyit had all the
                          federal statutes and all the states already in a format
                          that allows us to use it as the cornerstone of our
                          new electronic platformthe LexisNexis platform
                          that is going to be across the globe. For my business
                          across Europe, Germany is the number-one point of entry
                          in terms of market expansion.
                          The Netherlands is another strategic market. If you
                          look at Dutch content, you would say, well, who cares
                          other than people in the Netherlands, but, in fact,
                          you have South Africa and other countries around the
                          world where the Dutch language is understood. There'll
                          be announcements in that area shortly that I can't
                          really talk about today. [On December 16, 2002,
                          LexisNexis Group announced the acquisition of FactLANE,
                          a Dutch online news service, from PCM Uitgevers. FactLANE
                          adds significant, unique content to the LexisNexis
                          business intelligence product, including NRC Handelsblad and deVolkskrant.]
                          Spain is another target on my radar screen.
                          MO: Spain has always been a tough one.
                          JV: It is a tough market, but an interesting
                          one. Clearly the language is very good for us because
                          there's the link between Spain and the Latin American
                          countries. There are a couple of very interesting online
                          electronic services there, but it's still very much
                          dominated by the traditional print, which is not a
                          market that I will target. Print is significant in
                          the U.K.; it's significant in France. It is not our
                          intention to get out of it; if anything, our intention
                          is to continue to be the leading provider. However,
                          we want to really help the market migrate to online.
                          Online is not as pervasive in Europe and Africa as
                          in the States. Take Poland. You'd think that it's print
                          and then going to online. Well, they have such a poor
                          infrastructure from the telecommunications side that
                          it makes it extremely expensive. It's very difficult
                          for online to be the media of choice. So at the moment
                          a third of our business is CD-ROM-based. We continue
                          to have a CD market in France and even here in the
                          U.K., where we would have predicted a few years ago
                          that by now it would be kind of dead, we continue to
                          produce CDs for a portion of the market. It's shrinking,
                          though, an indicator that online is taking hold.
                          We continue to see a very healthy increase in online
                          usage in countries like the U.K. and France, and we're
                          very happy about that. You've heard quite a bit I'm
                          sure about our new global platform so you know that
                          we are very proud about putting so much work into itwe've
                          done, I think, the most research ever in the history
                          of the company to prepare for it. It's all focused
                          on the users. It is all about usability preferences.
                          MO: Talk to me a little bit about users because
                            in the U.S., there are two pretty distinct user markets.
                            One is the legal, comprised of lawyers, paralegals,
                            and law librarians, and the news side, which is mostly
                            used by the library market. Does that carry over
                            here? It seems that you are much more legally focused
                            with the company in Europe.
                          JV: Of course, everything in our business
                          started out as traditional legal publishing, so by
                          definition, it's the majority of the business.
                          MO: The online business?
                          JV: Yes, you have your researchersof
                          course the hub of it being in the libraryand
                          then you continue to have that part of the market that,
                          based on the size of the firm, has more end-user requirements.
                          If you look at the size of law firms in the States,
                          you would measure them based on number of partners.
                          You would have categories, 100 plus, 500 plus. Here,
                          once you get to 20 plus and 50 plus, you are really
                          in the top. We have all the international firms. It's
                          the middle part of the market that has more of a need,
                          a growing need, for us to create a product that allows
                          the user to have ease of use, a lot of flexibility,
                          and the capability to do their research online at the
                          desktop.
                          MO: In these middle-sized firms, would they have
                            a dedicated researcher or would they all be lawyers
                            themselves?
                          JV: You see, that's the difference
                          from the States, where many more of the researchers
                          are dedicated to that task. Here, firms have lawyers
                          and paralegals doing their own research, more so than
                          in the States. So our excitement about the new platform
                          is that one, we are able to bring tremendous feature
                          functionality to the user, whether it is the researcher
                          or the end user, and two, we are able to give them
                          capability that everyone is aftermore and more
                          the ability to search another language.
                          MO: You have interfaces in French, German, and
                            English?
                          JV: That's right. French, for example,
                          isn't just for France. There are French-speaking countries
                          in Africa and, of course, there's Canada.
                          MO: Are you going to expand into Spanish?
                          JV: We are doing it in order of launch.
                          So we'll introduce, this year, the German launch. We
                          will have as well as in France. We'll stress local
                          language, content, and search capabilities.
                          MO: It seems to me that in Europe generally, the
                            name LexisNexis does not have the name recognition
                            it has in the States.
                          JV: It had none when I came.
                          From my sales, marketing, and business background,
                          I knew customers didn't know who we were because we
                          weren't out there. Brand is a big deal. When you came
                          today, you saw the LexisNexis knowledge burst and name
                          on the door. You wouldn't have seen that 18 months
                          ago. If you go to France today, you will see LexisNexis-France.
                          Nine months ago, you would have seen Les Editions du
                          Juris-Classeur because that was the brand. Now it's
                          the LexisNexis brand in each of our countries.
                          MO: So, your branding is working?
                          JV: Branding is starting to work. Barristers,
                          judges, they recognize Butterworths; they know it's
                          been around since 1818. But, interestingly, if you
                          ask them about online research, they now talk about
                          LexisNexis. We're completing the brand changeover so
                          all of online is branded as LexisNexis. When it comes
                          to printed materials, we'll have the LexisNexis brand
                          along with the older one. Halsbury's Laws is 300 years
                          old; we're not going to take that brand away. People
                          want local content, but we want them to recognize the
                          LexisNexis brand.
                          MO: How do acquire local content? Do you look
                            at acquiring companies or licensing content?
                          JV: Both. On news and business, it
                          will likely be content licensing, because that is really
                          the majority of what will be available. If it will
                          differentiate our content from the competition, that
                          is absolutely what we are after. We'll then use our
                          global capability to bring the best technology to the
                          market, and we ensure we have a local infrastructure
                          that can bring it to the market the fastest possible
                          way. That's the way we get the competitive advantage.
                          There is certainly a lot of competition in the market.
                          We have made the conscious decision to do two things
                          better than any of our competition. One is to have
                          the technology that links us around the world, and
                          the other is to invest in the local content market.
                          We are working very hard to license all the major publications,
                          to license all the major sources to include. What is
                          surprising is how much these local news sources know
                          about the scale and scope of LexisNexis. They are very
                          proud to be part of a service so large, which isn't
                          something that I anticipated.
                          MO: For Europe, would content acquisition come
                            out of this office or from Dayton?
                          JV: It comes from here. But even in
                          the U.K., you can't truly be the content licenser if
                          you're looking at another country. You have to have
                          people locally doing that. We are trying to get deeper
                          and deeper into the fiber of the country to become
                          the local provider. It's important for us to be seen
                          as ingrained in the country locally, but having the
                          power of international content and capability wrapped
                          around it. So if you are an M&A banker in Germany,
                          what you want is the best content that you can get
                          your hands on both locally and globally. That's our
                          jobto ensure we've licensed the content in all
                          the countries that are important and that it all goes
                          on the platform and therefore you have access worldwide,
                          anywhere you are, to the content that you need.
                          MO: Is the use of the news and business growing
                            in Europe?
                          JV: Yes, yes. In fact, the whole area
                          of news and businessI would put under the terms
                          of corporate marketis another area where LexisNexis
                          U.S. is separate from LexisNexis Europe. We've done
                          extensive research to find corporate markets across
                          Europe. This is a significant area. Corporate market
                          opportunity in Europe is roughly half a billion Euros
                          across the key countries of Europe. If you look individually
                          in those countries, you would say there are certain
                          markets further developed than others. There are key
                          markets that are growing. Financial services, media,
                          pharmaceuticals.
                          MO: What differences do you find in the European
                            corporate market versus the U.S. one?
                          JV: The top tier has the same companies,
                          organized the same way. Individually, in each country,
                          they want to feel they are in control of their destiny.
                          So even if there's a regional office in London that
                          controls what is going on across the European continent,
                          they want to be able to make their own decisions locally.
                          So, there is always internal struggle.
                          MO: What about multinationals and global accounts? 
                          JV: We are so very keen to brand ourselves
                          as having the capability worldwide to manage global
                          accounts. Our global platform, with a globally linked
                          organization and with presence locally in each of those
                          key countries, that's what makes the difference. At
                          Xerox, I ran global accounts for financial services
                          out of Europe, but it was global, so it didn't matter
                          where the offices were around the world. At LexisNexis
                          I want to ensure that we handle the customer the way
                          the customer wants to be handledwhat is their
                          buying process, what is their criteria, what is it
                          they require? Very often what they require is that
                          we are communicating worldwide very well with their
                          people, but that we are selling to them on a unified
                          approach so the contract turns.
                          MO: How do you train customers? If you want to
                            ensure they are doing professional-level research,
                            what do you do to help them?
                          JV: Well, we have the training resources
                          in every country where we are resident. So, if you
                          are sitting here in the U.K., you'll find that I have
                          roughly 40 customer trainers that spend their time
                          with clients in the way that they want to develop it.
                          MO: Is it usually going to the workplace or is
                            it bringing people here?
                          JV: Both. We have it set up so that
                          we can do training in house or we can do training at
                          the location, even as so far as to say one-on-one training
                          if that is what is required. We have extensive training
                          capabilities.
                          MO: Do people pay for that or is it something
                            that you provide free of charge?
                          JV: It's provided free of charge as
                          a service, but, if somebody requires tremendous extensive,
                          custom training....
                          MO: Then you would bill for it.
                          JV: Yes. But otherwise we really do
                          provide training as a service to our clients.
                          MO: Good. I gather you are sticking around for
                            a while.
                          JV: Yes. Personally I love being here.
                          I've lived here for 4 years and I am delighted. Somebody
                          asked me, "What do you think of this transition and
                          this move?" And I said that I've never had buyer's
                          remorse. Since the first day I never woke up and said, "My
                          God what have I done?" I love the company and how it's
                          metamorphosed from a stodgy legal publishing business
                          to a dynamic online company.
                                                  Marydee Ojala [marydee@xmission.com] is
                            the editor of ONLINE.                          
                             
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